BillyDee203
Registered: 08/27/04
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Reply with quote | #31 |
I remember playing the promo edit of Golden Earring's "Radar Love" where at about 1:15 the most obvious edit goes from the chorus to the drums. I ended up "remastering" in by taking a trailing guitar note to blend over the edit. Most everybody I play my edit for (with the exception of those who know the promo edit) never catch that horrible splice! |
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JRNelsonSr
Registered: 03/02/05
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Reply with quote | #32 |
Quote: Originally Posted by WBQuote: Originally Posted by MikeC
Back in 1975, when Barry Manilow came out with "Could It Be Magic," of course there was a 45 edit for airplay. At that time, the promo man came around with an acetate or a blank-label promo of the first attempt at an edit, which was really ham-handed and sounded pretty bad next to the ultimate hit single edit (Arista 0126). Does anyone know whether this was actually the earlier single edit (Bell 45422), released before "Mandy" (Bell 45613)? From what Ron Dante told me, Bell 45,422 was a straight mono remix of the album version, with nothing really changed beyond optimizing the sound for AM radio - even then the all-important promotional version. (Ron's MO in the seventies was to mix all his stuff to stereo, mono compatable, but to do dedicated mono mixes of anything he heard was being plugged for the mono side of the promo single.) When Arista 0126 was released he wanted the song to have a new identity separate from its previous release so he remixed it for the single, mono and stereo. The Barry Manilow album had originally been released on Bell with a different cover (another shot from the same photo session that later produced the Greatest Hits cover). When Arista changed the cover and retitled the disc Barry Manilow I Ron expected the remix of CIBM to be used, but the master tape wasn't reworked, and that remix was ignored on comps for decades. |
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LnR
Registered: 11/09/04
Posts: 477
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Reply with quote | #33 |
Two glaring examples come to mind. Chambers Bros. "Time Has Come Today" single version where the long instrumental mid-section was cut out. It always sounds odd to hear the drums slow down doing a simple 4-beat, and then abruptly go into the heavily echo-delayed double time. But where else could they have edited it?
The one that puzzles me are the two obvious edits on the last chorus of the Supremes' "Reflections" that is identical on both the single and album versions (mono and stereo). Apparently that was the splicing of different takes?
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Barrympls
Registered: 01/31/04
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Reply with quote | #34 |
Quote: Originally Posted by mikey5967
Agreed about "Strawberry Fields"............I honestly dont think ANYONE knew about that edit until the EMI studio staff started to get interviewed for magazines and such.
When John Lennon first heard the edited master, he was sitting there concentrating and he could not hear the Edit. Thats a good edit!
If you want to hear a really LOUSY edit, flip over your 45 of "Psychotic Reaction" by The Count Five and listen to "They're Gonna Get You". Not THAT'S a bad edit if i ever heard one.
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Hykker
Registered: 03/06/07
Posts: 787
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Reply with quote | #35 |
Quote: Originally Posted by LnR
Two glaring examples come to mind. Chambers Bros. "Time Has Come Today" single version where the long instrumental mid-section was cut out. It always sounds odd to hear the drums slow down doing a simple 4-beat, and then abruptly go into the heavily echo-delayed double time. But where else could they have edited it?
There were 2 versions of the 45, the more common one you mentioned, and a shorter one that faded at around 3:05. I never saw a promo of the shorter one, nor did I ever hear it on the air. The catalog # implies that the song had originally been issued about a year of so before it actually charted...maybe the short version was the original issue.
What's the deal with what sounds like bad ground-loop hum at around 4:10 or so of this song? It's just before the "euuuhhh!", and is gone afterwards.
[ -- The one issued a year earlier was a completely different recording. We were going to put it on Rock Artifacts, but the series got cancelled. Oh, well. -- MC]
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burbles
Registered: 03/29/07
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Reply with quote | #36 |
There are two bad/phasey/warbly edits in Rockin' Robin by Bobby Day (listen with headphones). It almost sounds like the original was too short, so they spliced in a repeat of the "well the pretty little ravens at the bird bandstand" part. The ending might have been a work piece to get that whistling extro just so. It just sounds so tacked-on.
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MichaelP
Registered: 10/05/06
Posts: 1,331
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Reply with quote | #37 |
Quote: Originally Posted by TheAllNightShowQuote: Originally Posted by mikey5967
1) Beatles: "She Loves You". In the "Pride Can Hurt You Too" part, where the eq on Ringos Hi Hat cymbals is completely different. Even as a kid, I heard that!!
, You hit the nail on the head with that one. I was beginning to think I was the only one to notice it. I had brought that up on another website Board somewhere, and they might as well have thought that I was from outer space. This could become an interesting topic! Keep them comin'!
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Hykker
Registered: 03/06/07
Posts: 787
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Reply with quote | #38 |
This is not a bad edit per se, but in "Ariel" by Dean Friedman the song gets sort of muddy in places, like the tape wasn't making good contact with the heads. |
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